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The Great Big Harry Potter Squee Bonanza
This is it, my friends. The end is near. In a fortnight, it will all be over.
Basically, my Harry Potter Hysteria is reaching unchartable levels of nostalgia and squee, so I thought I would do the decent thing and encourage my fellow fanatics to engage in a wise and nuanced exchange of ideas (and SQUEE) about this monumentous literary occasion (I told you I was getting excited. This isn't healthy).
Basically... I want theories, I want memories, I want fic and video recs, I want favourite moments, favourite characters, thoughts on the films and any other jazz that might apply.
Please, guys. If I don't have an outlet for my excitement my head will explode and I'll die. Do you want that on your collective conscience, flisties? DO YOU?
Yours in pathetc desperation (and SQUEE),
Sophie
Basically, my Harry Potter Hysteria is reaching unchartable levels of nostalgia and squee, so I thought I would do the decent thing and encourage my fellow fanatics to engage in a wise and nuanced exchange of ideas (and SQUEE) about this monumentous literary occasion (I told you I was getting excited. This isn't healthy).
Basically... I want theories, I want memories, I want fic and video recs, I want favourite moments, favourite characters, thoughts on the films and any other jazz that might apply.
Please, guys. If I don't have an outlet for my excitement my head will explode and I'll die. Do you want that on your collective conscience, flisties? DO YOU?
Yours in pathetc desperation (and SQUEE),
Sophie
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We've got a pretty extensive thread of discussion on my LJ, so this will be my nostalgic stuff, favs, and recs.
I started reading Harry Potter in the summer of 1999, right before Prisoner of Azkaban came out. My friend had been pestering to me to read them, and my mother finally bought the first 2. Except our local Barnes and Noble had run out of Sorcerer's Stone so I read Chamber of Secrets first. Yes, the horror. This was also back in the day when the UK got the books way before the States, and my friend's family was already reading PoA because they had ordered a British copy. We got home from vacation and promptly did the same. Then there was the summer GoF came out. My previously mentioned friend and her family was going with my family to visit my grandparents around the same time that the book was being released. We got a copy for the car and out of the same book, we went through GoF. This is a picture of us reading it at my grandparent's. For OotP a bunch of my friends came over and we just sat there and read. For 24 hours. Quietest we've ever been around each other. My family was in Stratford when HBP came out. First and only midnight party I will ever attend. Our Irish B&B hostess in Warwick was so excited for us reading the book. It was pretty funny. I'm amazed I managed to finish it in 24 hours considering we were sight-seeing as well that day. Finished it when we got to Oxford. Started crying like crazy in the B&B we were at, and my parents and sister were all "WTF." I simply cannot believe this series which has spanned more of my life than any other fandom is ending. And I just love what it's done. I have so many great memories of my friends and I going to breakfast and staying diners for hours discussing and debating the finer points of the book. We're the generation that's grown up with Harry, and no one else will get this experience.
Favorite characters!
- The Weasleys! More specifically Ron and the twins, but seriously. They are the heart and soul of the books and I can't think of anyone who wouldn't want to be a part of their family. Except the delusionals, but they don't count. My absolute favorite part of OotP was the twins escape from Hogwarts. I liked OotP, but it certainly wasn't my favorite, but the twins made it worth it. Also, just any time Ron is Ron. Ron-haters can suck it.
- The Marauders. Okay, so mostly in mind they are the inebriated-pantsless creations of SBP, but they were the reason I love PoA the most. I love the history behind them, and the idea that there was a time when Hogwarts was normal. (If the 70's can be considered normal. Or Hogwarts.)
As for recs, I fail. I've been out of the fandom loop for HP for so long, (post-HBP Harmony backlash mostly... couldn't handle the stupidity. OBHWF!) I'm only just getting back in the swing of things. But I found Home for the Holidays, which is BRILLIANT. I just love it.
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I read the first two just before POA came out as well! Happy days. Just before the explosion, but while enough people had read it for there to be a few people to squee about it with.
Ahh, the "Why the hell are you weeping?" look. It's hard to explain five books of backstory to people who aren't that fussed.
When HBP came out, there was an article that referred to the generation who came of age with Harry (i.e. us) as "Generation Hex". It's like a movement or something.
WEASLEYS!
I'm going to put all my recs and stuff in another comment, because sometimes my journal likes to play hide and seek with comments for no reason.
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This friend of mine tried to brainwash us into all reading it. One friend of mine firmly resisted claiming that he thought a book about school would be stupid. I kid you not when I say under favorite books on Facebook, all he has listed are the Harry Potter books now. By the way, have you seen my pictures of my band of friends and I wearing our Chudley Cannons tshirts? Totally wearing it to the movie. I also have an urge to make a U-No-Poo shirt.
They all read the books, it's just that I was the only one who had made it to the end at that point. Then my sister started nagging me, wanting to know what happened. Refused to spoiler her, of course.
Really, Harry belongs to us. I mean, he belongs to everyone who's been following him, but he's ours.
Lemme know what you think of the fic.
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I know, and moreso because of the whole age/growing up thing, give or take a few years. I really cannot anticipate what it's going to be like when it's over, though. I suppose we'll still have the films to come, but we'll *know* the whole story. It'll be a whole complete thing.
I do like Butch!Ron. He would look fantastic with a beard, I think. And Ginny running away with the trio! Bless. I do hope it doesn't take them that long to find stuff in the book... Although I would commit violent crime to see a Ron/Hermione wedding.
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(Also, I loved your little meta-comment. I pretty much agree with everything you said. And it's definitely the ginger.)
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I've always had a bit of a repuation as That Girl Who Reads A Lot, and when I was in year 5 (age 9), a boy called Tom in my class asked me if I'd read Harry Potter. I had no idea what he was jabbering on about, but he was so enthusastic that I was intruigued. Unfortunately, I wasn't intruigued enough to actually buy the book, so I didn't actually start reading the series until just before PoA came out. My mum bought me the first two, which were duly devoured, and the first seeds of my fangirlishness were planted.
Anyway, over the years, the books have been bought on the first day of release and there's been radio silence and a strict no-spoiler policy among my group of friends until we've all finished and squee can be had (slow reading is punsihable by shunning). Hours and hours have been devoted to analysis and flailing and doing the Harry Potter Quiz on the Scholastic website. After PoA, my best friend Emma and I had sleepovers devoted entirely to Harry Potter (Example of conversation: "So do you think something will happen with Harry and that Cho Chang girl?"). It was my fandom before I knew what fandom was.
Okay, favourite stuff.
CHARACTERS
- Ronald Weasley, without a doubt. There is so much that I love about this character that it's ridiculous. Out of al the characters in the series, it's him that makes me laugh the most. I feel for his whole massive-family-everyone's-awesome-inferiority-complex angst. I *love* watching him and Hermione stumble towards a relationship as it ever-so-slowly dawns on him. I love the fact that he gets dirt on his nose. He's unflinchingly loyal, and he's willing to sacrifice himself for his friends BUT HOPEFULLY NOT IN THE SEVENTH BOOK. He's ginger. He's ridiculous. I loves him. In fact, all the people I know who love Ron, *really* love Ron. Maybe it's that protective instinct (our boy has been savaged at the hands of those DELUSIONAL Harry/Hermione shippers), maybe it's just that there's something about him that makes you want to hug him. Maybe it's the ginger.
- All of the Marauders (not Peter, he doesn't count *spits*), but particularly Remus Lupin. He likes books. He likes chocolate. He's endearingly shabby. He's got a wonderfully dry sense of humour. He's the coolest teacher ever. Above all, there is ANGST. This is a man who, for twelve years, thought the murder of three of his best friends was caused by their other best friend. And he loses his best friend twice. Oh, and he's a werewolf. And then there are the scenes like him packing in PoA, which just make me ache because he's so dignified and wry in the face of something so horrible and humiliating. But there's also the whole Shrieking Shack sequence (possibly one of my favourite things in the whole series, and definitely the section I've reread the most) with, again, the fierce loyalty, and the resolution and the whole Marauders dynamic. And I am a huge, huge fan of the Tonks/Lupin relationship, pink werecubs and all. I live in fear that it's going to get cut from the films. And yes, I'm not ashamed to admit it. I do have a little bit of a thing for David Thewlis.
- There are a couple of characters who have grown on me immensely over the course of the books (and the films), and these are Ginny Weasley and Neville Longbottom, because they've had two of the most awesome character arcs. Ginny's gone from being in awe of Harry and all awkward and embarassed to being, frankly, a complete badass. Whereas Neville, while still being a bit of buffoon and loveable and all that (and I love Matthew Lewis' performance in the fillums) has grown up so much, with all the tragic backstory and, while still not a badass, is capable of great bravery and general goodosity.
SCENES/PLOTS/STUFF LIKE THAT
- Anything at all involving the Marauders in the slightest degree
- Won Won and Lavender
- Weasley's Wizard Wheezes
- The Ministry of Magic showdown in OotP
- Harry and Ginny's first kiss (bless)
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THOUGHTS ON THE FILMS
I saw Philospher's Stone on the first day of general release, for my sister's birthday and I loved it, because it was basically the book on screen, which was exactly what I wanted to see. As I got older, the dodgy effects, Chris Columbus' hammy direction and the slightly dodgy child acting (Emma Watson's tendency to EMPHASISE lots of WORDS in a SENTENCE with her EYEBROWS) became more obvious, but, inexplicably, I still love it. It was on the telly this afternoon and I was smiling like a goon all the way though.
Really, they would have to butcher the books pretty badly for me *not* to love the films. The one thing that's pissed me off about the adaptations is the fact that Lupin never explained to Harry about the Marauders and the Map in PoA! It would not have taken long! It would have been awesome! Anyway, I'm looking forward to OotP more than any of the others, mainly because David Yates is directing. Now, he's a previously untested film director, but his television stiff includes The Way We Live Now and State Of Play, so AWESOME. And from the trailers and clips that I've seen, not only is Dan Radcliffe's acting *significantly* better, there seems to be a rather excellent 1984 totalitarian tonal thing going on, with wartime haircuts and cardigans and so on. Anyway, EXCITED.
RECS
-Videos
This (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FAvS290TYRw) is a Ron/Hermione video set to "Wonderwall", which is always good. This (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TaDLjGcImEo) is Harry-centric, to "Defying Gravity" from Wicked, and it works surprisingly well.
And everybody knows this (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1XIm6q4r4), but it's still classic.
I don't have very many fic recs (anyone?) but this (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1XIm6q4r4) made me laugh like a drain.
Wow, that was a really long comment.
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Books:
From the books I have to say I'm the kind of OMG!DARKNESSZ!!2!@!~~ lover, and in a very fangirly way. I read the first two books because of a friend and I liked them alright. But then a more dark atmosphere started developing and the last books have been very sombre and well, dark. And I love it.
So it shouldn't come as a shock that my favourite characters are Snape and Bella :D I like Snape in a "real" way, I do like his personality and way of thinking, etc. Bella is just fun and wicked ;)Actually, I enjoy the Dark Lord and the Deatheaters in general. The trio is alright, they don't bother me but I don't love them. Actually, I might like Ron. Yeah, I do like him. On the opposite end, I HATE Sirius with a passion. I think it might have something to do with the fact that I love Snape and they don't get along. Anyway, I seriously don't like him. McGonagall is also a great character.
I don't know what else to say about the books. I just hope -and expect in a way- a decent ending for Snape. I mean, not the awww he's a good guy thing, because he's certainly NOT a good guy and I don't like to think about him in those terms, but not the obvious 'I've been working for my Dark Lord all the time' [read that with an extremely dull voice :DD] because there's so much more to do with him. So, if you ask me, I think Snape is bad but working for the good side... if that makes any sense.
Movies:
The casting is great, one of the things that I like the most from the movies. I like some more than others, but it's normal. I'm delighted with the 'all British cast'. Alan Rickman as Snape only made me love the character even more. Maggie Smith is perfect in her role, Kenneth Branagh was also amazing and I do like Gambon's Dumbledore. Oh, and Gary Oldman makes me like movie!Sirius heh. I don't care much for the young cast. I think the most talented one from the trio is Rupert and Luna looks promising. As everyone, Emma's mad eyebrow-movement got the worst out of me but she's working on that.. I think. And Daniel is improving :)
My favourite movie is PoA, although they changed or omitted several things from the book. But I watch an adaptation of the movie and I don't mind things being change -when they aren't major-. But the visual aspects are perfect, and I don't know, I just love this movie much more than the others. The last one was awful to me, the worst of all in my opinion. I still watched it countless times xD And I think OotP will be great.
Random: I tend to laugh when I hear/read run Ron or hurry Harry lol :D
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Ooh, I'd never really thought about having one of the 'bad guys' for a favourite character, that's really interesting. Bella is great, she's just a complete nutter isn't she? And from the clips I've seen, Helena Bonham Carter is going to be awesome; at one point she's got hold of Neville by the hair! Snape is... gnarly, and I *love* that we still don't know whose side he's on. He's such a complex character, and bits like "Snape's worst memory" go so far to explaining things like why he hates Harry and the Marauders and why he might have wanted to be a Death Eater. I've got a suspicion he had a thing for Lily and was at Godric's Hollow the night the Potters died, but that's just me being a bit romantic. But, ANGST! He has so much angst and I loves it.
Oh no, you hate Sirius! :p There's times when I don't particularly like his behaviour (usually when he's being a dick to Snape), but I find him completely fascinating and a bit heartbreaking because he never really grows up. And Gary Oldman is righteous. And he was such a rake when he was young! I can't help it, I love the whole Marauders idea. Not when they were younger and arrogant bullying gobshites, but the stuff we haven't seen so much of (except in photos), when they were all twenty and beautiful and dashing and fighting for something important.
And McGonagall wins at life, just for all the snark.
I'm so glad JK made the producers go with the all-British cast thing, I can't imagine some of the dodgy accnts we would have been forced to watch if she hadn't! I can't wait to see Alan Rickman get his hands on some of the really juicy Snape stuff in OotP and HBP (and DH, hopefully!), he's going to be amazing. I really like Gambon's Dumbledore as well (it was weird, Philospher's Stone was on TV yesterday, and it was Richard Harris. I'd almost forgotten about him). I think I like PoA the best so far as well, although OotP looks awesome, mainly because of the tone and the visuals (and Lupin!) and all that. And I'm like you in that I don't mind if the films are a bit different from the books, because they're two separate things, and they're designed for different kinds of experiences. I quite liked GoF, though, what was it that bothered you about it? Really? Worse than the Chris Columbus ones?
Random: LMAO!
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Yeah, I'm not sure why, but I always tend to sympathise with the "bad" characters or the more ambiguous ones. Not only in Harry Potter but in general, in literature, in movies, in history. Like, Snape, Claude Frollo in Notre Dame de Paris by Victor Hugo, or the Marquis de Sade to name a historical figure.
...but I find him completely fascinating and a bit heartbreaking because he never really grows up
That's exactly why I don't like Sirius I think :D He's so childish in many occasions and at the same time I feel he's a little bit narrow minded. And I'll never forgive him for what he did to Snape lol
I'm also very very excited for Alan Rickman's importance in the coming movies. As I said before, I loved Snape in the books but with Alan playing him it's just ... guh! wonderful beyond words. And you can imagine how excited I was when I read HBP :D:D It was a very strange experience for me, because although I was crying a lot for Dumbledore's death I was also extremely happy because Snape was so central to the plot. It was as if inside the story I was sad for DD, but as a reader I was overly-excited with and for Snape heh.
Regarding GoF, I do like it less than the Columbus' ones, even if those are also really bad. But for some reason, although the acting is awful and the direction is far from marvelous, I think they are better than GoF because they actually tell a story and you see characters, not action. I got the feeling that GoF was an action scene after the other, with a poor feeling of cohesion throughout the movie and I simply didn't like it, I couldn't enjoy it. Besides, the Columbus movies had the positive thing that it was the first time we were seeing the books on the big screen.
I'm so excited about OotP!! I'm in the middle of my finals so I shouldn't be here commenting these things with you, and I shouldn't go to watch the movie when it opens this week but I simply can't resist :D:D It looks so elegant and well-focused, like a good approach of the story (unlike GoF heh) And all the new characters look so great. As you said, Helena Bohan Carter is looking awesome, the whole Death Eaters are looking great. Having Ralph Fiennes as Voldemort is also a little gem :)) And the sequences I've seen from Dumbledore's Army are excellent too.
Oh well, everything is looking great :)
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OotP has a new writer so hopefully the story will progress a bit more smoothly than it has in the past. It'll be interesting to see what they edit out; I'm rereading it now and I keep thinking "ooh, I hope they keep that bit!"
There was something magical about the Columbus ones, because it *was* the first time we got to see that whole world on screen, and I still enjoy them, they're just a bit clunkier. I didn't mind the action in GoF, I thought it was pretty well done, but I can understand why people might have preferred more dialogue and character stuff. I aso thought that having a British director like Mike Newell helped, because it just made the setting a little bit more authentically British, if you see what I mean.
Ooh, and Luna looks really good.
EXCITED NOW!
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Yeah, I see what you mean with Mike Newell being British too. It might be a little bit hypocrite to ask for a all-British-cast and have, lets say, a Mexican director. However, I think they are more anti-Hollywood than pro-British, if you know what I mean. I love it though ^__^
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My favourite characters are Lupin, Ron and Lucius Malfoy.
I can't wait to read DH. I hope Lupin won't die! And Ron and Hermione must get together, it's 'bout time!
I like the movies in general, the second one is my favourite (Kenneth Branagh!!! Jason Isaacs!!!) and I loathe the PoA, because Cuaron (or rather Steven Kloves) butchered my favourite book.
13 DAYS TO GO ALJDAKSDLAJLDKADKAL
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I love Lupin and Ron, and Lucius Malfoy played by Jason Isaacs is just awesome. The Hair! I want to touch it, it looks so silky...
If Ron and Hermione don't end up together, the only reason this could possibly be now is that one of them dies, AND I REALLY DON'T WANT RON TO DIE. It's making me nervous. And I think she's going to kill Lupin as well, which would be both my favourites dead! I don't think I can handle this.
I love the performances in Cos (not the kids, lol), but I'm not a big fan of Chris Columbus' direction of the first two films. When I saw them, I loved them, and they still make me smile, I just think that it's *too* faithful to the book, if that makes sense, he doesn't really give it room to let it be a film in its own right. And although it made me angry that so much Marauders backstory got cut in PoA, it's probably my favourite film so far because of the tone and the visuals and David Thewlis... Hey, this is all Steve Kloves' fault! He either cuts too much or too little! Curses!
13 DAYS AIAIAIAIAIA!
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Lucius has teh pretty hair <333 I think I only squee'ed at every Lucius scene in the books, because I knew Jason will be in the movie then as well^^
If Lupin's going to die, I'll cry, but I think I'd even more cry if Ron dies :( I want my good ship happy end, dammit!
Steve Kloves is the devil!
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Ron/Hermione forever, obviously, but what do you think about Harry/Ginny?
There was a 'making of' type thing on TV yesterday and it had Jason and Gary talking about their duel, and Jason compared it to a Jedi fight! SO EXCITED NOW.
He is the devil, thank god he's not writing this one! We should send him strongly worded letters :D
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I'm here for the HP love!! I don't want it to end :o( AND I WANT SIRIUS BACK. I think JK needs to write more Marauder scenes, personally. Preferably an OOTP-sized gargantuan scene.
Btw, did you see JK Rowling on Jonathan Ross on Friday? She seems so nice :D
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Do you think if we sent her enough strongly worded letters she would write a bid big big Marauders book? And that Jonathan Ross interview was so cute. Although she worried me with her use of the word 'bloodbath'...
Come on, then! Favourite stuff! Fond remembrances!
*pets Prongs*
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Favourite stuff and fond remembrances... SIRIUS BLACK. :D Who is not dead. I never actually finished POA on my first reading of it because HP gave me nightmares. *blushes* It was actually more through fic than the books that I fell in love with the Marauders.
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Yeah, from what I've been reading (and personal exoerience) most people fall in love with the idea of the Marauders and then use fic to flesh out the characters a bit more (SHOEBOX OMG &HEARTZ!!!) I do love Sirius a lot (but Remus more, I'm a geek and I loves him), he's like a film star. Even after his death and I do think he is dead the stuff JKR was writing about him shaking his dark hair back and so forth made me swoon a little bit. Plus he's got that whole arrested development thing going on, like Peter Pan but sexy, which is heartbreaking. And Gasry Oldman is awesome. And you know what happens in this film...
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But what if Harry, Ron and Hermione see it all through? There is something lovely and not at all neat and cheesy about that xXx
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ANGST! There will surely be angst a-plenty. JKR would not deny us the angst now.
Ahh, CoS. The main thing I remember about those extras is Rupert getting enthusastic about the vomit slugs: "They had all differnt flavours..." Fluffing love that man!
See! I've been in this hell for two years! It's horrible to contemplate! It makes me cry!
It would indeed be luffly if they all made it through, and in my brighter moments it seems a real possibility. It wouldn't be cheesy, it would be beautiful.... *anguished wail*
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The thought of losing a Weasley full stop has me in knots. Watched PoA two days ago with the Gred and Forge and the lovely clips of them from OotP (which will hopefully coincide with Harry seeking advice from Sirius and Lupin about James). Maybe Percy is due a comeuppance- like Regulus Black (position dubious).
REMUS HAS TO LIVE! He has to live his life in full for all of them- James and Sirius- Lily. But we know how JKR loves a good death. Oh, how we know...
*kisses your icon* loves yours too xXx
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Have you been watching clips? I've been trying to avoid it (apart from watching Behind The Magic... but that was just research). DAY AFTER TOMORROW, MY SWEET! I should get into Mancland and 11.45, mmkay?
Oh Emm Gee Sirius and Lupin! back in the habit like Sister Act 2! Only to be torn apart! Argh!
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Snape = good - yes/no? [I used to firmly believe yes, but after re-reading Half-Blood Prince last week I'm starting to have doubts....bad bad doubts....]
Ronny + Hermy = will we finally get to see (well, read) them kiss?!? (and does any aside from me want to see Viktor again?)
Harry + Ginny = will they get together for real this time and not break up again?!??
Will Harry die??!
I don't have time to read all the earlier comments so: thoughts?